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5thStreetPokerParties.com
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 Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 10:23 am Post subject: Poker - The Real Deal (Phil Gordon) |
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This is Phil Gordon's new book that you have probably seen them whoring on Celebrity Poker Showdown... It's a good read, but more anecdotal than a traditional hardcore how-to on the game.
There are sections where other pros contributed to tips on aspects in which they are experts. Mike Caro on Tells... Middle Limit Hold em by Bob Cioffone... Poker Theory by David Sklansky...
I enjoyed it more than some of the other books I read, but if you're looking for huge odds charts and things of this nature you should grab a different boring poker book.
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jumperjeff
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Who's this Guest guy? This is the third useless post I've read of his in 5 minutes.
Doc, you might want to think about limiting posting to registered members...
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Dix
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Location: W.Poland Maine - USA
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| Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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He's just some loser spamming a couple of worthless links.
I did the same thing Doc... bought that book on my last trip to NO (pre-Katrina). Was definately better than sleeping on the plane... parts of it were an absolute riot.
(From Chapter 7: The Cardroom)
| Quote: | Intermission: How To Put A Table On Tilt
Winning a small pot feels good. Winning a huge pot feels great.
Sometimes you'll be lucky enough to sit at a loose table, where maniacs will raise and re-raise your nut hands all the way to the river, spoon-feeding you pot after pot.
Other times you'll find yourself at table full of tight-fisted rocks, folding too early and too often for you to realize anything but the most marginal profits. That is, unless you can transform these models of rational judgment and sober restraint into bloodthirsty, raving lunatics yelling "Cappuccino!" as they toss in their fourth bets.
The easiest way to accomplish this is to put your opponents on tilt, exasperating them into committing completely irrational acts, which you then exploit mercilessly.
The following strategies should be wielded with great care. Used properly, they can result in some of your most legendary winning nights. But be warned: Should you try any of these techniques and fail, you will probably look like, well, a complete ass.
Deliver A Bad Beat
If you're playing poker "correctly" — that is, calling or betting only when you have the right odds — you're going to suffer more bad beats than you inflict. The theory of implied tilt odds (or ITO), however, suggests that the correct way is not always the best way. ITO relies on the notion that calling a bet when you have no mathematical business doing so, then winning the hand, will leave your stunned opponent muttering obscenities and chasing his money for the rest of the night.
Here's an example: A super-tight player has raised and re-raised with what you (and everyone else at the table) know are pocket aces, after you've inexplicably raised from the small blind with 7-2s. The flop comes down A-K-2 with one of your suit. Should you continue with the hand? Odds calculated in the traditional way would say no. The implied tilt odds, however, tell you to go right ahead. Sure, you probably won't make that runner-runner flush, or catch running deuces to make quads against his aces full. But those few times that you do will completely destroy your opponent's faith in the natural order of the universe, and should earn you enough angry money over the rest of the session to make this a profitable play.
Feign Drunkenness
Nobody likes a drunk. A winning drunk is even worse. Scooping big pots while seemingly intoxicated to the point of near-collapse is a sure way to piss off your opponents.
Order a drink. Say "another drink" even if it's your first. Spill a little on your lap — never underestimate the sense of smell — and alternate between holding your head miserably in your hands and erupting in fits of delirious, high-pitched giggles.
This style of play is not recommended if you actually are drunk, in which case you should probably tighten up your play considerably, or, better yet, sleep it off. If you're of that rare breed who actually plays better drunk, congratulations! You've got a natural edge.
Unleash Your Inner Annoying Self
For some, the ability to fill the air with incessant, meaningless chatter comes naturally. For others, it's an acquired skill. If you have it, nurture it. If you don't, start studying the behavioral patterns of annoying people. A distracted player is a losing player, and you want to provide as much distraction as possible.
Talk about your troubles with your girlfriend. Or your boyfriend. Or your girlfriend's boyfriend. Bemoan life with your stepkids (real or imagined). Comment on your every move: "I guess I just have to call." Hum. Develop facial tics. Pass gas.
The trick is to create a general aura of annoyance without getting people so aggravated that they leave the table.
Presto!
A variant of the bad beat, wielding the power of Presto is a skill that takes a moment to learn and a lifetime to master. All you have to do is win a hold'em hand with pocket fives, declaring "Presto!" as you turn over your cards. One's level of Presto expertise is determined by just how bad a beat gets delivered, i.e., flopping a set of fives against pocket aces is good, but gut-shotting a straight on the river represents the work of a true Presto master.
An added benefit: Once you've introduced Presto to a table, some of not all of your opponents are going to join in, creating a lot of "dumb" money. |
His new book "Phil Gordon's Little Green Book" is more of an "instructional tips and theory" type.
On the complete other end of the spectrum.... if you don't care anything about learning anything about poker, but just want a real good laugh...
Tales from the Tiltboys is a laugh-riot.
(from the preface...)
| Quote: | Tilt.
Most people think of tilt in gambling terms, an emotional response
to a loss that defies probability. A player makes a bad call, hits his
long-shot draw, and beats you out of a huge pot? Tilt. It clouds
judgment and leads to irrational behavior. We try to remain sanguine
when it happens to us and exploit it when it happens to someone
else. But it's not especially gratifying. When the universe commits
tilt, it's manslaughter at best. Shit happens. We derive our deepest
satisfaction from First- Degree Tilt -- the premeditated kind that can
only result from a perfectly executed angle. Watch Rafe take a simple
game of Roshambo (Rock-Paper-Scissors) and turn it into an opportunity
for tilt:
Rafe: I'm going rock.
Victim: Okay, then I'm going paper.
Rafe: But you know that I wouldn't tell you the truth.
Victim: You might if you think I won't believe you.
Rafe: But I know you will compensate for that.
Victim (exasperated): Just go!
Rafe: 1-2-3
Rafe goes rock. Victim goes scissors.
Rafe (pocketing bet): You over-compensated.
Tilt -- its infliction and avoidance -- is at the core of Tiltboy
interaction. We speak of Relationship Tilt and Job Tilt, Hot Tub Tilt
and Missed Opportunity Tilt. There are varying degrees of tilt
including pseudo-tilt, full tilt, and mega-tilt. It creeps into our
vocabulary in all sorts of ways. One coinage has even leaked back into
the gambling vernacular: Implied Tilt Odds, or ITO.
"Implied Tilt Odds" states that the tilt you instigate now will pay
off handsomely later. For instance: You know that Phil is a favorite
to sink his putt in two strokes? Bet him that he can.t do it in
three. Give him odds if you want. Strictly speaking, it's a bad
bet. Until you factor in ITO.
If Phil makes his putt in three, so what? He's supposed to. You pay
him off, end of story. But what if Phil misses? Not only do you
collect your bet, Phil likely will shout a bunch of obscenities, break
his putter, and be on tilt for the rest of the day. You make extra
money on all the additional golf bets he'll insist on making, plus a
few hundred more in Roshambo.
We will give up a fair amount of short-term monetary expectation to
gain a little bit of tilt. Empirical evidence shows that someone
else's tilt usually translates into money in our pockets.
We also talk about Tilt Insurance. We will often make financially
unfavorable decisions just to avoid possible tilt. Everyone else is
buying a stock, and you think it's going nowhere but down? Who cares!
If everyone else gets rich off the stock, how on tilt will you be? Buy
a few shares for tilt insurance.
As you'll come to discover, these dynamics weigh heavily in almost
every Tiltboy decision. The possible angles are endless. How much
financial equity will Dave give up for ITO? How might Lennie's need
for tilt insurance affect his judgment? There is no easy formula for
calculating the true odds of any Tiltboy wager -- even the simplest
decision involves thinking several levels deep. Throw a deck of cards
into the mix, and you can see why Wednesday nights are anything but
boring. |
http://www.tiltboys.com/tiltboys-book.html
Roshambo for the Bride? Only at a Tiltboy wedding.
On break from the Bay101 ladies tourney
(BTW - That's "Phylis" Gordon in the pink dress on the book cover  )
The Tiltboys website is good for a few laughs if you have some online time to kill... for example, the Tiltboys Homegame rules are posted...
| Quote: |
Kim,
I've included a set of rules with some of the games we most often play
below. We are not really anal about the rules. If a dispute comes up
and it's precedented we go with the precedent, if not then we just
come to some group consensus as to what's fair. Last ditch is
roshambo of course.
One thing that might freak you out that isn't mentioned in the rules
is that there is often a "tilt cap". Which means that one person says
he's in for the cap on this round, and if anyone else agrees to cap
it, then it's capped without going through the normal sequence of
bets. If you are not one of the two tilt-cappers, you can decide to
be in for the cap or fold. Since 80% of the time the pot is capped
anyway, it doesn't really change much. It may affect your strategy
though inasmuch as you have one. I sure don't 
--Rafe |
Or maybe the "Tilt Golf" rules for you golfers.
http://www.tiltboys.com/
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